From: Lynn McIntosh [faiml@uswest.net] Sent: Saturday, October 16, 1999 10:12 AM To: mjanke@miamiferret.org Subject: (Fwd) Adrenal List #39 - Vena Cava Ligations: Consulting Vets Forwarded message: From: Self To: @SENDLIST.PML Subject: Adrenal List #39 - Vena Cava Ligations: Consulting Vets Reply-to: Lynn McIntosh Date: Wed, 25 Feb 1998 18:45:55 Hi there. Thank you all for responding so quickly. I sent the responses to Wally's vet, who I'll talk with tomorrow. She called and left a message she has new info, so hopefully we'll have a treatment plan for Wally soon (he recently had an exploratory surgery and a huge, elongated tumor was found, which histology showed adrenal; she didn't feel it was safe to take a biopsy, because it oozed every time she touched it; but she got a needle biopsy). I'll find out who she called tomorrow. Special hugs to those little ligated troopers of ours! Lynn Mc. 1. Dr. Dan Hudson 2. Reply: Dr. Dan Hudson 3. Dr. Charles Weiss 4. Reply: Dr. Charles Weiss 5. Dr. Edwards 6. Reply: Dr. Edwards 7. Dr. Caine 8. Reply: Dr. Caine 9. Dr. Hudson 10. Reply: Dr. Hudson 1.---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 13:08:32 -0700 From: Jim Dunn Subject: Re: Wally - Vena Cava Ligation - Vet Consults? Hi Lynn, Dr Dan Hudson, has perform about 5 of there surgeries including Pams Riki and our Baby. All surgeries have been successful. My number is 919-217-8420 evenings only. Pam is on vacation. Hope this helps, Jim Dunn Dr Dan Hudson Northwoods Animal Hospital 980 Northwoods Drive Cary, NC (919) 481-2987 *************************************** Jim Dunn Staff Engineer Raleigh Design Center E-mail: jim_dunn@pairgain.com Phone: (919) 875-3341 Fax: (919) 876-1817 *************************************** 2.---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 19 Aug 1997 11:57:27 -0700 From: Jim Dunn Subject: Re: Wally - Vena Cava Ligation - Vet Consults? If you want to publish, I don't mind and I don't think Dr Hudson will either since he already has consulted before plus brought other area vets in to observe the surgery before. Plus he has done surgery for out of town ferret owners (contacted over the net) as well. His main concern is always the health of the animal. I have not talked to Dr Hudson lately but he is due to be a guest speaker at our October ferret club meeting. His subject is adrenal disease. Take care, Jim *************************************** Jim Dunn Staff Engineer Raleigh Design Center E-mail: jim_dunn@pairgain.com Phone: (919) 875-3341 Fax: (919) 876-1817 *************************************** 3.---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 13 Aug 1997 07:50:30 EST From: lbarber To: Lynn Mcintosh Subject: Adrenal consult Lynn, I don't know if my vet has seen an adrenal like the one you're describing, but I do know that he can ligate the vena cava. Your vet might want to call him for a consult. His name is Charles Weiss and he's at the Potomac Animal Hospital in Potomac, Maryland. He does about 5 adrenal surgeries a week. (301) 299-4142. Best of luck with Wally. My Azrael goes in tomorrow for adrenal surgery. Lorali J Barber Production Editor The American Journal of Clinical Nutrition 9650 Rockville Pike Bethesda, MD 20814-3998 301-530-7038 Fax 301-571-8303 LBARBER@ASCN.FASEB.ORG http://www.faseb.org/ajcn 3.---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 18 Aug 1997 07:39:38 EST From: lbarber To: Lynn Mcintosh Subject: Re: Adrenal consult Lynn: It's not a problem to post Dr. Weiss's information. He used to read the FML (when it was smaller and he wasn't so busy) and still monitors it some. Azrael is doing very well. The biggest problem is getting him to stay in bed and rest. I've given up and let him run around, but I just don't encourage him to play. Hope Wally is doing okay. Date: Sun, 17 Aug 1997 19:59:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynn Mcintosh To: lbarber Subject: Re: Adrenal consult Dear Lorali. Thank you so much for the info, which my vet has. Shall I post it in the next adrenal list? I'm asking those that sent me info, so we can have a reference list for vena cava ligations, for those who are comfortable having their vet's names and numbers posted. How is Azrael doing? Let us know! Fuzzy hugs, Lynn 5.---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 13 Aug 1997 10:20:14 EDT From: Jeanne E Stadtmiller To: Subject: Ligations Hi Lynn - Alicia forwarded your message to me (and also to Mary McCarthy). Mary is the vet tech at my vet's office (and also my best friend and Vice president of Ferrets and Friends of Upstate New York). My vet is Dr. Allen Edwards - and I have one of his successful vena cava ligations. I'm going to make sure Mary sees your messages and writes you with more specific information - in the meantime, I can give you Dr. Edwards' phone number. Here goes - Brockport Animal Hospital (716) 637-6190. Stormy is doing great! He actually went in for an obstruction - we didn't find one. We found pancreatitis and a bunch of undigested food in his stomach from his digestive system "shutting down". Doc, however, being thorough, found a very nasty right adrenal and suddenly and unexpectedly, I had a vena cava ligation! Stormy was cage bound for a couple of days as a precaution and monitored for any blood leakage. Then he was allowed short runs - no stairs! He was also being treated for the pancreatitis at the same time - and his belly didn't feel good so it wasn't too hard to keep him low key. He has recovered very normally - and is doing fine! I'll have Mary give you more specific information if she can.... He has done others as well. Also, Dr. Edwards loves to share information, so feel free to have your vet contact him! Good luck! Keep me posted! Jeanne 6.--------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 18 Aug 1997 23:40:13 EDT From: Jeanne E Stadtmiller To: Subject: Re: Ligations Hi Lynn! I don't have a problem with Doc's name being on a list.... (as long as it's a GOOD list... GGG) Don't think it is a problem with him either. He is more than happy to share his knowledge. Yes, Storm was a real shocker for me. Ever since he was born he was what is now called Angora, I guess. Maybe not officially, but he always had longer softer fur than any other ferret I've ever met. He went through some real hard sheds, but not to the point of hair loss even. The reason we went after a hairball was that it could be felt on palpation. (Instead of a hairball, it was undigested food.) We have also had some ferrets here who seem to have developed a wicked case of heliocobactor/ulcer... but it seemed to arrive with a touch of a nasty intestinal flu type thing. Figured he must have picked this up and thereby irritated the pancreatitis. The big surprise, as I mentioned before, was when Doc made his little internal tour of organs and found the vena cava completely attacked by the adrenal tumor. I was so surprised when they told me that I was speechless (and Doc and Mary will both tell you that hardly ever happens!! GGG) He is doing great tho! You would never know! Well, hope all that made sense. It's kinda late - and I'm beat. Not sure if I was tracking correctly or not! (G) Keep me posted on Wally - and if he needs any encouragement, I'm sure Stormy would be glad to drop him a line! (G) Jeanne and Stormy 7.---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 13 Aug 1997 18:00:15 +0000 From: Beth To: Subject: vena cava Hi Lynn, My vet has done 2 adrenal surgeries on my ferrets & I know he's very ferret knowledgeable. He was recommended to me by Sukie & Steve Crandall. He doesn't like to ligate the vena cava & I think he said he's only done it when he had to. He thinks the ferrets do poorly after surgery. He would much rather leave a small piece of the right adrenal. I know when Sully had his surgery he called around & found out that he does as many adrenals as anyone else. We were trying to find out what Sully might need to supplement with after the surgery but it wasn't necessary anyway. His name is Dr. Caine at the Basking Ridge Animal Hospital 908-766-4211. I would assume he wouldn't mind a call from another vet. He seems to really love what he does & loves ferrets. He also thinks surgery is the way to go as he doesn't believe Lysodren works well for ferrets. Good Luck with Wally! Beth 8.---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 18 Aug 1997 16:13:44 +0000 From: Beth To: Lynn Mcintosh Subject: Re: vena cava Hi Lynn, Feel free to post to the list. Afterall this is how vets get clients. Last week he did an adrenal surgery on a 8 year old that only weighed under a pound. The ferret came to him because no one else would operate. She was alive the following day. Hope all is well with you. I've got a found ferret that I picked up last night. Have called all local vets & the person who found him called the police but no owner so far. Beautiful ferret too. My husband already called to see if I've found the owner this morning. Congratulations on your recent marriage. I hope he's a ferret lover! Beth At 03:06 AM 8/18/97 +0000, you wrote: > >Hi Beth. thank you so much for writing. My vet is still doing consults. >Would you like to me to post this in the next Adrenal List? I'm asking >everyone who sent me info and vet's names and numbers. It would be nice >to have them collected on one list, for those who feel it's okay with >their vets. > >Thanks again. I'll keep everyone posted about Wally! > >Fuzzy hugs, > >Lynn 9.---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sun, 17 Aug 1997 10:10:59 -0400 From: Dave and Pam Taynor To: 'Lynn Mcintosh' Subject: RE: Wally - Vena Cava Ligation - Vet Consults? Hi Lynn, Sorry this is a little late in responding. We just got back in town (NC) after a week in Ohio. Dr. Hudson's address and phone number are: Northwoods Animal Hospital 980 Northwoods Drive Cary, NC 27513 (919) 481-2987 Dr. D. A. Hudson Good luck with Wally. Rikki is still doing just great! My thoughts are with you and Wally, Pam Taynor 10.---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 19 Aug 1997 09:18:56 -0400 From: Dave and Pam Taynor To: 'Lynn Mcintosh' Subject: RE: Wally - Vena Cava Ligation - Vet Consults? Hi Lynn, Yes, you can post this to the list. Shari Gunter is actually having Dr. Hudson do Adrenal surgery on one of her girls, Gina, this Thursday. Hopefully not right-side. But at least this is the vet who knows how to get those pesky right ones! Our thoughts are with Wally, Gina, and all the other sick ferrets out there, Pam Taynor ---------- From: Lynn Mcintosh Hi Pam. Shall I post this to a list? Thank you very much for the info. I got Dr. Hudson's name from another person too, and definitely want my vet to consult with him. For those who think it's okay with their vets, it would be nice to have an Adrenal List with the name's & numbers of vets who do vena cava ligations. Fuzzy hugs! Lynn ------End of List #39 - Vena Cava Ligations: Consulting Vets-------