From: Lynn McIntosh [faiml@uswest.net] Sent: Monday, May 22, 2000 11:31 AM To: FAIMLanon; FAIML Cc: faiml@miamiferret.org Subject: FAIML #426; May 22, 2000 Ferret Adrenal/Insulinoma Mailing List (FAIML) #426; May 22, 2000 1. Scooter Lost The Battle 2. Update Toya The FERRET ADRENAL/INSULINOMA MAILING LIST (FAIML) is a group that's come together to share support and information about adrenal and insulinoma diseases. FAIML comes out in digest format three to six times per week, depending on the number of posts sent, and their surgency. FAIML information is the opinion, only, of subscribers, mostly ferret caretakers. It is not medical advice, comes with no guarantee of accuracy, and is not meant to replace the examination and medical oversight of a qualified veterinarian. If your ferret is sick or exhibiting signs of illness take your fur kid to the most ferret- experienced vet you can find! A ferret- experienced vet is one of the most important services you can provide to your ferret. 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You can also try subscribing automatically by sending email to with the command SUBSCRIBE FERRET in the body of the email. 1. Scooter Lost The Battle Date sent: Mon, 22 May 2000 9:06:08 -0500 From: "Mary Rogers" Thank you all for your responses, but Scooter, my little duder, the wonder ferret lost the battle on Friday. I cannot read any of your responses yet because I am still so upset, but I want you all to know that I appreciate your help and I will try and respond later. Wednesday Scooter was very lethargic and had trouble walking. I took him to the vet and his glucose was 23, but on Friday it was 179 and 165. He didn t want to eat so we had to force feed him. My first thoughts were insulinoma, but when the blood test results came back 3 things were out of whack indicating kidney problems. The globulin count was 33% (suppose be 20) which could also indicate lymphoma or the AD virus. Friday while Rob was waiting to pick him up he had a seizure and the vet could not save him. Wednesday was the first sign of anything being wrong and by Friday he had crossed the bridge. What a shock! We will know more when the necropsy results come back. The first opportunity we had to meet Scooter was when we ferret sat for the shelter mom while she went away for a few days. He was fine, but his cage mate had insluinoma. We fell in love with him. We had just gone from 2 ferrets to 10 adopting 8 all at one time and were overwhelmed so didn t want to take in another 2 and one that was sick. We had not experienced insulinoma yet. So when his cage mate passed, the shelter mom asked if we wanted him and of course the answer was yes. I agonized over not having him for months so when we got him I was sooo happy! This was just last November. In January he had spleen surgery, left adrenal and hair balls removed and recovered quickly. That's when our vet called him Scooter The Wonder Ferret. He had much more energy after the surgery. He was so happy to be with us. He even weasel wared for us a few times too. He was 4 or 5, a MF dark brown sable with the full hood, and a dark nose. He was such a sweetheart! He would look up at you with "that face" and beg for treats. He didn t like Bandit treats or Ferretbites, but Ferretone and Neutrical were his favorite. He also loved Bob's chicken gravy and my duck soup. I can't believe we only had him for 6 months! I miss spoiling him the most, his little face looking up at you and how he would put his little ears back. It breaks my heart that he is gone. Had we known we had ADV we would have never put any of our ferrets in jeopardy. I'm trying not to feel responsible for his passing and remember the 6 months that we got to make his life better before he went to the bridge, but it's really hard because I miss him so much! I even called Harely Scooter Duder because they looked a lot alike. Today is trim nails, clean ears and weigh, but unfortunately there is one less. It s time like this I'm glad we have so many ferrets to help fill the loss. Mary, Rob and The 11 Munchkins Missing Scooter so much! 2. Update Toya Date sent: Mon, 22 May 2000 00:26:40 -0500 From: "Lora Smith" Hi everyone, Toya passed away this morning. I wanted to let you all know. She is out of her pain now and that I am glad of. I will miss her and my father will more. She was a wonderful pet and gave my father 3 great warm fuzzy years. It really puzzles me what actually happened. I want to thank you all for your kind words and helpful hints. I don't know if there was anything else we could have done, but I know we did all we could that we knew of. Good luck to you all with your babies. This is a wonderful list! With love and gratitude, Lora ----------------------- End of FAIML #426 -------------------------