From: Lynn McIntosh [faiml@uswest.net] Sent: Saturday, October 16, 1999 10:12 AM To: mjanke@miamiferret.org Subject: (Fwd) Adrenal List #46 Forwarded message: From: Self To: @SENDLIST.PML Subject: Adrenal List #46 Reply-to: Lynn McIntosh Date: Wed, 25 Feb 1998 19:15:33 Hi. For those of you who don't know, Max has passed away. Thank you, Michael, for sharing his story with us. As I've written to you, I think his story will help others as he lost the battle to what was apparently a rare lymphsarcoma of the bladder, which your vet hadn't seen before, as I understand. On Monday, when I have access, I will visit Max's sweet picture. Alicia, you posted an interesting short bit in the FML about the relationship of adrenal tumors to lymphosarcoma. I am interested in hearing more. Good to hear Kelsey is doing so well! And Tippie, too. Adrenal symptoms do wax and wane and it never hurts, in the case of an apparent recovery that isn't directly linked to chemo or surgery, to get the Tennessee blood panel done to check and see if the adrenal disease is really in remission. Perhaps Timmie's recipe is helping and I certainly hope so and that Tippie is on the road to recovery. Please keep us updated Barb; a fully furry Tippie would be fine to hear about! Our Wally is on his second round of Lysodren with no change positive or negative; and it's probably too early to expect any. How soon have others ferrets shown negative symptoms? I already know it generally takes four weeks to show any sign of recovery. He is on 50 ml. three days on and two days off. I'm surprized that the initial dose was only three days and am going to check further on that. Thanks to those of you who sent along good wishes for my dad. He's doing great! The operation was seven hours, rather than six, due to adhesions from the colon cancer surgery he had two months ago. Plus they found a paresophageal hernia, which neans, basically, his stomach was in his chest. They fixed that too! Now he ought to be really good to go for a long while :))))) I'll be in Florida and New Mexico from Sept. 17-29, but will put out a list before I leave. Thank you all for being there and fuzzy hugs... Lynn. Adrenal List #46, dated Sept. 14, 1997 1. Max: Thank you 2. Max's last picture 3. Update Kelsey; new guy Kosmo! 4. Re: Adrenal List #43 - Lysodren? 5. Subject: Adrenal - New Member Questions 6. Reply: Moni Juice 1.---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 12 Sep 1997 13:16:04 -0400 From: "Michael F. Janke" To: Alphachi , Carin Riley , Jackie Hawley , Jennifer Morlanne , Lynda Reid , Maria DeCicco , Tobi Santini Subject: Max: Thank you Thank you all so very much for your kind thoughts, condolences and cards. I hope I haven't forgotten to include anyone in the list of names. I'm still in shock over loosing Max. Three weeks ago he seemed to be pretty much normal, except for needing adrenal surgery, and now he's gone. Tuesday I was on jury duty and called Angela from the courthouse in the afternoon. I was so happy to hear her say he seemed to be improving. He appeared more alert, and though he wasn't eating on his own, he would eat without being forced, and seemed comfortable. He hadn't pee'd blood for almost a week. By late tuesday evening, things started to go bad. He started peeing a lot of blood again and Angela, the wonderful soul that she is, stayed up with him until 2am, holding him and talking to him. She gave him plenty of subq fluids and torbutol to ease the pain. Wednesday morning she called our vet and questioned her about a few things and then I heard from the vet. The biopsy on Max's bladder came back and it was lymphosarcoma. Unusual for the bladder, but that was it. I immediately called Angela and she told me that Max had worsened since tuesday and was very uncomfortable, peeing a lot of blood and crying when he tried to pee and even a little when Angela held him to feed him. I knew then that I couldn't let Max continue to suffer. I left work and met my wife at Angela's and we held Max for a while and talked to him and told him everything would be ok. Then we left with him to our vet. We stayed with him while Dr. Chavez gave him a general anesthetic and the last words he heard before he went to sleep was me telling him "I love you, Max." Dr. Chavez gave him the final shot while we held him and he went quickly and peacefully. We took Max home with us and buried him right next to Punky Doodle. I miss him terribly. Again, thank you all for your kind thoughts. Mike 2.---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 12 Sep 1997 20:31:57 -0400 From: "Michael F. Janke" To: Lynn Mcintosh > Cc: Tobi Santini , Jennifer Morlanne , Jackie Hawley , Carin Riley , Alphachi Subject: Max's last picture I've placed Max's last picture, taken about 3 weeks ago, on the memorial page for the fuzzies I've lost. I would be honored if you visit this page and see Max as I remember him. Lynn, if you like, you can post this message to the adrenal list too, though I know it really has no relation to the topic and will understand if you choose not to do so. The address for the page is... http://www.gate.net/~mjanke/sidney.htm In sadness, Mike 3.---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 8 Sep 1997 18:47:52 -0400 (EDT) From: AndresenK@aol.com Subject: Update Kelsey; new guy Kosmo! Hello all !!! Sorry I have not written in awhile - my modem took a hit during a bad storma few weeks ago and I just got a new one this weekend. Anyway Good luck on your fathers surgery and I will say a prayer for him and a speedy recovery. Glad to hear of all ferrets that are recovering well from recent surgeries - keep up the good work My Kelsey is still doing well and is playing more. His appetite is good and fur is growing back on his belly but his tail is still thin, maybe that will come back with the next fur change - hopefully things will continue to go well for this polar bear. I have a new addition to the family - a 4-month old dark sable male who I have named Kosmo. Kosmo has been transferred to the pet store by me from another pet store that does not sell alot of ferrets. He was always passed up for the smaller new babies that come in - he is quite big and quite lonely. He was in this cage all by himself and while talking to one of the workers that runs a ferret rescue she had mentioned that the store would not be keeping him much longer - I asked where he would go and she said that if he isn't sold she would probably end up with him before she let anything happen to him but, she really could not do it since she now has 38 ferrets with 20 up for adoption ( anybody want a ferret ???) well, needless to say i felt sorry for this big bundle of fur and went home and spoke to my so about him and we went back to get him with the understanding that this is the last (until we get a house that is - haha). This little guy was so happy to come out of that cage and play. He was starving for some attention. He came home with us and met his 9 new brothers and sisters - gosh is he happy now. He loves to run and play with them and is also quite the tumbler. One of my girls Kandi is not so accepting and is constantly fighting with him and I do not know what to do. He has been here since last tuesday night and is still kept in a seperate cage but when they are all let out to play every so often out of nowhere comes this screaming and i find the 2 of them going at it and seperate them and with in 15 minutes they are at it again. Any suggestion are welcome here. Sorry this turned out so long. Our prayers are with all fuzzies that are facing a challenge for a quick recovery and all others to stay healthy. Thanx again Katherine and the 10K's Kira,Kloee,Kory,Koko,Kasey,Kandi,Kelsey,Kaila,Kiku and Kosmo 4.---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sat, 9 Aug 1997 23:31:13 -0600 From: Barbara Gustafson To: Lynn Mcintosh Subject: Re: Adrenal List #43 - Lysodren? > Barb, have you started Tippie on Lysodren? I hope she is well. Tippie is > the gal who has had three exploratories (isn't it Barb?), has adrenal > symptoms, but the adrenals have appeared normal in all three surgeries. Hi Lynn Honestly, No I haven't started Tippie on the Lysodren. My last month or so has not been the greatest. I've been extremely busy for one thing and also have been on an emotional rollercoaster with Hobie who I just recently had put to sleep. That plus I'm stonewalling again as to weather I really want to put Tippie through this. I'm starting to think maybe just maybe Timmy's recipe is doing her some good. Her energy levels are high, she's very active, the vulva swelling has gone away, and surprise surprise she's started sprouting hairs all over her body. I think she's doing this on purpose cause she heard me say I wasn't going to take her to our 1st Annual Ferret Frolic and she really wants to go!!! ***grin*** Do you think it's possible that the first surgery did in fact get the one and only tumor and it's just taken a year and a half for the hair to start growing back? I know it's not likely but I can hope can't I? At a time when she's doing so well, and so obviously happy I'm reluctant to put her through the potential side effects of Lysodren. Although I haven't been posting lately I'm still managing to keep up with the lists and continue my prayers for those of you who are going through the agony of having a sick ferret. I pray you all have happy endings. Barb Gustafson (aka Boots) 5.---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 09:32:16 PDT From: Diana Ashton Subject: Adrenal - New Member Questions Dear Lynn, I was told that you do a mailing list with adrenal info. I have a 3 1/2 year old female ferret who had her left adrenal removed in May. There was no change in her condition and she in now about 75% hairless. The surgery was 850.00 and if we were to do the right it would run even more due to the risk. We also had to send her to Anchorage, 350 miles away because there was no vet in Fairbanks that had ever done an adrenal. A second surgery is not possible for financial reasons. I have just recently started her on Lysodren and prednizone. It has only been a week but my vet is not sure how she will react. He explained the risk and that the success rate is very slim. But because he is learning by experience with my ferrets, all 10 of them, he is just not sure. If you have any information that you can pass along or if you can add me to your mailing list, I would really appreciate it. Thanks, Diana K. Ashton ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com 6.---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 10:11:47 -0400 From: Rick Riley Subject: Noni Juice Lynn, Know that your dad is in our thoughts and prayers down here in Florida. Amy, I sincerely respect you're opinion about the ability of Noni juice to correct neurological disorders. I admit to knowing nothing about this subject. I can only say that I have seen it do miraculous things in my everyday normal life. I can't vouch for Dr. Tran, but after what I've seen it do, if a vet, who sees trauma cases every day, says he's seen it work, I can't argue. I do have his phone # if you would like to converse with him about it. I also have lots of paperwork on how Noni helps various functions of the brain as well as records of research being done with Noni. It is certainly not my intention to make you or anyone here a believer in the effects of taking Noni juice. It matters not to me. I simply state what I have seen, heard and read. Carin Riley --------------------End of Adrenal List #46------------------