From: Lynn McIntosh [faiml@uswest.net]
Sent: Saturday, October 16, 1999 10:12 AM
To: mjanke@miamiferret.org
Subject: (Fwd) Adrenal List #47 

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Subject: Adrenal List #47 
Reply-to: Lynn McIntosh <faiml@sttl.uswest.net>
Date: Wed, 25 Feb 1998 19:15:41

Date: Wed, 17 Sep 1997 10:52:07 -0700 (PDT)
From: Lynn Mcintosh
To: Adrenal Group -- Amy Cada <amycada@utxvms.cc.utexas.edu>,
    AndresenK@aol.com, Angel Howse <angel@goodnet.com>,
    Anthony.Mastropolo@sandoz.com, beek@feist.com,
    Beth <Beth4Ferrets@worldnet.att.net>,
    "Brian L. Schmidt" <blschmidt@msn.com>, Cat13Dog5@aol.com,
    Chris & Shelley Knudsen <ferrets@tcgcs.com>, dadams@dzn.com,
    Dave and Pam Taynor <taynor@ix.netcom.com>,
    Dixie Carter <dervish@scrye.com>, Diana Ashton <pooh1997@hotmail.com>,
    Ela_Heyn@notes.pw.com, Ellen Jensen <rainbow@iserv.net>,
    ferreton@pond.com, ferretwise@top.monad.net, ferts@telusplanet.net,
    gabby <ferty@earthlink.net>, Gary Holowicki <garyh@indirect.com>,
    Jan3GDFA@aol.com, Jason & Alison Overstreet <jalison@primenet.com>,
    JC2109 <jc2109@aol.com>, Jennifer Skeem <tmagic@mail.inconnect.com>,
    Jennifer_Morlanne@email.fpl.com, Jim Dunn <jim_dunn@pairgain.com>,
    Joanne Gelormino <moxieent@tiac.net>,
    Joerg Drobniewski <DROBS@vb.fhtw-berlin.de>,
    Juliana Quadrozzi - GA Domestic Ferret Association
     <ferretdiva@mindspring.com>,
    kammee@juno.com, "Karen Purcell, DVM" <drkaren@world.std.com>,
    karen wisniewski <zuni2000@hotmail.com>,
    lbarber <lbarber@ASCN.FASEB.ORG>, Lee McKee <lmckee@user1.channel1.com>,
    Lisaferets@aol.com, Lorraine Tremblay <fcshop@ferretcuriosity.on.ca>,
    lotaweasel <lotaweasel@hub.infoave.net>, lynda@flinthills.com,
    MADWAH@aol.com, Margaret Lehman <cyberjoc@worldnet.att.net>,
    "Mary L. McCarty" <MMccarty@minitab.com>,
    "Michael F. Janke" <mjanke@gate.net>,
    Monica Maples <d.maples@ix.netcom.com>,
    Pam Franklin <pfrankl1@IX.NETCOM.COM>,
    Pam Franklin <PFranklin@panlabs.com>, Patricia Curtis <ffrs@flash.net>,
    Rick Riley <rickr@icanect.net>, ROCHELLE@art.fss.buffalo.edu,
    Sburbine@aol.com, sterling <ster2872@gte.net>, TMccabe453@aol.com,
    Tobibags@aol.com, TrinaSing@aol.com,
    Troy Lynn Eckart <teckart@oz.oznet.ksu.edu>,
    "Valori K. Blank" <vkblank@students.wisc.edu>,
    Vicky James <ferret1@m6.sprynet.com>, Vikki Mick <vmick@missconet.com>
Subject: Adrenal List 47


Hi there.  A tiny, tiny list today!  Just a reminder that I'll be away
today to Sept. 29, when I'll put out a list.  Until then, if you want to
speak to the group, please post your messages yourself and don't forget to
include me!  I'll compile the messages into a list (for archiving) upon
return.  Looking forward to the day we're automated!

By the way, in case there are any of you are close to Miami Beach or
Alamogordo, New Mexico, I'll be at the Westin Sept. 17-21, 1-800-228-3000,
or 1-800-221-8844, then at mom's in NM at 505-437-4351.  Would love a
call.

Fuzzy Hugs, Lynn

Adrenal LIst #47, dated Setp. 21, 1997

1. Intro Post

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Date: Tue, 16 Sep 1997 09:04:34 PDT
From: Diana Ashton <pooh1997@hotmail.com>
Subject: Intro post

PLEASE POST

Hi Lynn and Hello to everyone,
    This is my first posting. Thanks so much to everyone who contributes 
to this mailing list.It might make life easier for the little ones we 
all love so much.
    I have 10 fuzzies. My first one, Molly is 3 1/2 years old and from 
MF.I started noticing her fur thinning and her Vulva was swollen. I 
started looking on line and ended up at where else but Ferret Central. 
That is where I learned of Adrenal Disease. I called my vet and he 
confirmed my suspicion. He is a mobile vet and comes to my house so he 
is really not yet set up for major surgeries. But, to my dismay there 
was not a vet in Fairbanks who had ever done Adrenal Surgery. We called 
Anchorage and found a vet who would do it for 850.00. OUCH!!! But Molly 
was worth it. In May she had her left adrenal removed. The vet visually 
checked the right and the surroundind area and saw no clear signs of 
involvment. Molly came out of the surgery with flying colors. We began 
to watch for signs of any improvment but none came. Molly continued to 
lose her fur. She was still in good spirits and she would still try to 
take on my Biggest male. All 1.2 pounds of her. 
    After it became clear that the surgery did no good, we bagan to look 
at our options. Oh, The histology report came back readind the left with 
an Adrenocortical Adenona. The lab felt that the borders looked clean 
and the vet removed it all.. But I know that it only takes 1 cell to 
start it all over again. Back to options. There were not very mant. For 
financial reasons, I could not afford another 850.00 surgery with no 
guarantee of results. My vet aws not completely happy with the Lysodren 
but that was all there was. Molly took her first dose of Lysodren on 
August 30. I give her .50 ml od prednizone 2 hours before the Lysodren 
to help stablize her blood sugar. Molly took 1 lm og Lysodren for 7 days 
then went to meds on Tuesday and Fridays.She will be taking her 10th 
dose today. So far so good. I also give her karo syrup to help with the 
blood sugar. Don't know if it will work but she loves it so it can't 
hurt.
     Molly is taking the suspension in  a medicine syringe. I can get 
the preds in her easy enough but as soon as she gets a whiff oh the 
Lysodren she starts to snort and drool, I have tried mixing it with 
ferretone and with the karo but to know avail. That stuff must have a 
really strong taste and smell. Does anyone have any suggestions as to 
how I might make it easier for her? I to have had many spit baths mixed 
with Lysodren. I just hate to here her cry so. She is such i teenie 
little thing. 
    Every time I give her a dose I know I could be hurting her.But we 
don't have a whole lot of other options. Has there ever been any studies 
done on what causes this disease. My vet, Dr Loible, has a strong 
suspicion that it is from them being spayed or neutered so early. There 
has got ot be a way to get these breeders to be responsible for what 
they are putting on the market. They have a responsibility as well.
   I am off my soap box now. Thanks again for thin venue and I hope all 
the Adrenal babies out there have someone who loves them as much as I 
love mine. Fuzzy ferret hugs to all and warm furry ferret dreams.

        Diana and her gang, Molly, Maggie, Buddy, Boo, Rosie, Roxie, 
Annabelle, Cocoa, Max and Jake.

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